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Military commander charged in slayings of two women.

Postby eriatilos » Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:36 pm

This story is too big to be swept under the carpet. This man must have a serious problem. I hope the judge will not be influenced by politics.
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Military commander charged in slayings of two women.
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Colonel Russell Williams faces first-degree murder charges in death of Jessica Lloyd, who went missing Jan. 28, and 2009 death of Corporal Marie Comeau
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A senior military official faces a pair of first-degree murder charges in two separate Ontario slayings.
Police said Monday that Colonel Russell Williams, 46, of Tweed, Ont., has been charged with first-degree murder in the death of Jessica Lloyd, of Belleville, Ont., who went missing Jan. 28.
As well, he faces a second count of first-degree murder in the death of Marie Comeau, a Corporal with 437 Squadron at Canadian Forces Base Trenton.
Col. Williams, who is a commander at CFB Trenton, also faces two counts of forcible confinement and two counts of break and enter and sexual assault.
Wearing a blue prison issued jumpsuit, Col. Williams made a three-minute appearance in a Belleville courtroom. He stated his name clearly, but answered quiety when asked if he understood the charges.
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Re: Military commander charged in slayings of two women.

Postby Toby Fourre » Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:35 pm

Doesn't surprise me in the least.
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Re: Military commander charged in slayings of two women.

Postby peapod » Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:32 pm

This is pretty shocking, epecially considering his position.
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Re: Military commander charged in slayings of two women.

Postby Toby Fourre » Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:40 pm

peapod wrote:This is pretty shocking, especially considering his position.

Shocking, if we expect a lot from military personnel; I don't. When we had a draft, soldiers represented a rough cross section of young Canadian manhood. Do you think that a volunteer force might attract thugs and psychopaths? I suspect it does but have no evidence. Certainly, training personnel to kill has to have some side effects, not the least of which is P.T.S.D.
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Re: Military commander charged in slayings of two women.

Postby bill barilko » Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:52 pm

It's all about control, AFAICT he never saw combat.

Congratulation to the Police for tracking this maniac to ground.
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Re: Military commander charged in slayings of two women.

Postby peapod » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:02 pm

I doubt that these are his only killings.
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Re: Military commander charged in slayings of two women.

Postby eriatilos » Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:49 pm

A profiler gives his opinion on the case.
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Could Trenton murders be serial killings?
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Police are not revealing the details surrounding the murders. They have said that in both sexual assaults, the victims were surprised in their homes late at night. They were tied to chairs. They were photographed by their assailant. A report in the Toronto Sun provided details of one attack, which included an unhurried intruder who seemed calm throughout.
We asked Mark Safarik, one of the FBI’s serial-killer hunters with the famed Behavioral Analysis Unit, about the likelihood that crimes like that were the work of a first-time offender.
After 22 years in the bureau, Safarik now operates a Virginia-based consultancy with Robert K. Ressler, the FBI investigator credited with popularizing the term “serial killer.”
After considering some of the published details, Safarik observes, “People don’t just wake up one day and say, ‘I’m going to abduct someone and murder them.’ I’m sure there’s a history.
“For me, the surprise is the number of assaults in a relatively short period of time,” Safarik says. “He’s obviously intelligent. He’s careful. So what’s happening with him? Is there some sort of mental decompensation? Did something trigger this?”


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Re: Military commander charged in slayings of two women.

Postby osscan » Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:38 pm

What ever happened to the assumption of innocent til proved guilty, some already have him drawn and quartered well before the judical dust is even stirred. Lotta folks did the same with poor ole oj.
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Re: Military commander charged in slayings of two women.

Postby Toby Fourre » Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:57 pm

osscan wrote:What ever happened to the assumption of innocent til proved guilty, some already have him drawn and quartered well before the judical dust is even stirred.

You are absolutely right, innocent until proven guilty. As far as I'm concerned, militaries everywhere, including Canada's, have displayed ample evidence of thuggery and, at times, psychopathy. So, Colonel Russell Williams gets the benefit of doubt, for now; Canada's military is guilty. I do not believe that the mess in Somalia a few years ago was an anomaly.

Questions: would this case have become public if the military did the investigation? Are we going to see more ugly exposées into the Canadian military ala the Catholic Church and the Indian schools?
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Re: Military commander charged in slayings of two women.

Postby peapod » Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:39 pm

He will get his trail, but I highly doubt that cops would have arrested him without real evidence, considering his postion. Killers like him like to take trophies, I bet he couldn't resist taking pics of his victims.
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Re: Military commander charged in slayings of two women.

Postby peapod » Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:59 pm

Cons, they really leave a bad taste in your mouth, some of them are actually complaining about the pic of peter mckay and persumed serial killer as a leftie plot and if the presumed serial killer was liberal you wouldn't see the pic. Nar a crumb for what those women must have suffered.
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Re: Military commander charged in slayings of two women.

Postby Durgan » Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:54 am

One of the ladies killed was a non-commissioned officer female officer. Commissioned officers are not to fraternize with the non-commissioned officers as a general rule, and definitely condemned if the individual is a female. This may be a military regulation if not a standing order. There had to be some social intercourse between the corporal and the commanding officer, simply for him to know about her.

If such a case was known on the base, it would be very difficult for those observing to bring it to the attention of their superiors, due to the rigid structure of the military. The whistle blower would have his/her career destroyed. The Commanding Officer is almost a God, certainly to the non-commissioned ranks.

I suggest the military is going to take no little flack when the issue is resolved. The sheeple will not be able to distinguish the fact that this is an isolated case, and is just one of those horrible crimes that plague all societies at one time or another.

There was a movie about this theme, where a German General throughout the war was murdering his female companions, who were mostly French, and Polish. He was finally brought to justice. The movie may have been "The Night of the Generals, if I remember correctly. It is not the "General's Daughter" with Travolta., which is a US based movie.

Innocent until proven guilty. This is decided by the Courts. There is no reason why the public cannot speculate on the case. This is how our police and media operate, otherwise nothing would be made public by authorities until after the court case.

This dogma "Innocence until Proven Guilty" is often mentioned without reflection by those so uttering. Tragically with the present system even if found not guilty the person's life is destroyed. Which is even worse is the scenario; the person is arrested by the police, and the case is not even brought to court after being flayed by the media. A recent example is the person arrested in BC over the pipeline bombings by the RCMP. The person, Ludwig, was drawn, quartered, and hung, by the media, and released.

Another case of media character assassination was the recent Toronto candidate for mayor, who did not even commit a crime. The media tried, and convicted this man. A story that should not even had been made public. It was a media frenzy of character assassination.This man should try the courts for some justice.
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Re: Military commander charged in slayings of two women.

Postby osscan » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:56 am

Guess your talking about giambrone, if so he's far from alone in being harassed for sexual escapades, lots of other luminaries have tasted the bile of a sexcited press. Guess they hafta learn to cover their tracks a tad better or posses narrative skills like clinton to carry on in office, doubt if giambrone playing the contrite card will bear fruit but who knows he may still make mayor. Could just be part of his learning curve in learning to conceal his real agenda pre election, a must for any wannabee public servant.
I really thought sexcapades were just ho hum nowadays, but I guess there are those that feel if one can't manage harmonious off duty time they're suspect with on duty time.
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